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1/15/2008
Topic: "Who should go to the Bench Allen Iverson or Richard Hamilton"

Last night Rip Hamilton returned to action after missing eight games with a groin injury, Rodney Stuckey is playing the best basketball he has ever played but after a loss to the Bobcats last night, a game the Pistons should have won it is obvious that a starting lineup featuring both Richard Hamilton and Allen Iverson along with Stuckey, Tayshaun Prince, Rasheed Wallace, is not going to work. I hate to be Coach Michael Curry and have to make such a decision of who who should come off the bench, I asked myself this question along with my colleagues Zoo and the Godfather:

Ron Campbell: The Pistons have to bench Allen Iverson and not because Richard Hamilton is a superior player but because Hamilton is the inferior player. Despite the selfish player tag that hovers over Iverson's head he has a career average of 6.3 apg. Iverson will be better able to set up plays for Antonio McDyess Jason Maxiell and Aaron Aaffalo the Hamilton ever would. Iverson coming in with the second unit, he will be able to give the Pistons a real spark off the bench, Iverson will be able to look for his own shot more as he is averaging a career low 15 shots a game. The Pistons have nobody who can create for themselves off the bench, Iverson will be able to create plays for himself and his teammates. Richard Hamilton cannot create his own shot, he is better suited coming off screens and going thru picks to get his shots.

Zoo: Since 2001-02 an Allen Iverson team has made it to the playoffs a total of 5 times in 7 years and have made it out of round 1 just one time. His career field goal percentage in the playoffs is 40%, the last 2 years in Denver it was 38% including 24% from 3 point range. His teams are 2-14 in his last 3 playoff trips and his exaggerated career assists per game total is even lower in the post season than it has been in the regular season. Meanwhile Rip Hamilton has been the leading scorer on a team that has made it to at least the Eastern Conference Finals in 6 straight seasons. Not too tough of a decision if I'm coach Curry. A.I. can take and miss as many shots as he would like playing with McDyess and Maxiell while Hamilton can work effortlessly in unison with the starting unit who should give the Answer a lead whenever he enters the game which should be somewhere around the 4 or 5 minute mark in quarter number 2.

Godfather: For the last three years we all have watched the Detroit Pistons get eliminated in the Eastern Conference Finals. Before the trade, that was the furthest that team could possibly go. The reason they couldn't get past the conference finals, was their personal and team style of play. The Pistons were a jumping shooting unathletic team that rarely got to the line. They ran alot of high screens and down screens to create open shots. In a 7 game series, by game 4 the opposing team would have them completely figured out, Boston took care of them in 6, Cleveland took care of them in 6 and Miami took care of them in 6. Is that a coincidence, I think not. When the fourth quarter comes, you need a player that can create his own shot off the dribble or who can get into the paint and to the free throw line.

Give Dumars credit, he had to make the tough decision and that was to move Chauncy for the younger more athletic Stuckey.

Now the question is who should go to the bench. It is a no brainer, Rip Hamilton has to go. He struggles creating his own shot and needs all four of his teammates to set him up for a jump shot that may or may not fall. Iverson doesn't need that much assistance and seems to be comfortable in the Pistons offense. Have the bench unit that struggles to score set those screens to get good shots up for Hamilton. Hamilton will provide an immediate boost to the bench and he will have a higher margin of error playing with the second unit. Iverson at the end of day is still one of the best scorers and with a point guard like Stuckey at his side, sky is the limit for the Pistons. The Pistons are big a way from a championship.

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Stu Parkerwow. after reading this blog....You are spot on. I do not deny Kevin Garnett's ability as a player but HATE the BS stuff he does...All negative crap.
 This is a very unfair article. Garnett is an Olympic Gold Medalist, an MVP, an ALL STAR MVP, an ALL NBA member and an NBA Champion... you know how many current players can say that? 2 others (Shaq & Kobe) and they are all considered among the best players at their respected positions in the HISTORY of basketball. The same should be said for K.G.
 This is a very unfair article. Garnett is an Olympic Gold Medalist, an MVP, an ALL STAR MVP, an ALL NBA member and an NBA Champion... you know how many current players can say that? 2 others (Shaq & Kobe) and they are all considered among the best players at their respected positions in the HISTORY of basketball. The same should be said for K.G.
RaThis is blasphemy. I hope a Celtics fan did not write this article.
KWAPTHow old is that clip of KG? C'mon..of course that was a punk move, but what was that, 10 years ago? It's simple: KG is a fierce competitor who uses intimiadation and mental toughness to strike fear in the heart of his opponents. If he is on your team, you LOVE him. If he is not, you may loathe him. But either way, he is a great player. You cannot deny that.
AlexWow, now we are going to call an Olympic Gold Medalist, an MVP, an ALL STAR MVP, an ALL NBA member, an NBA Champion, a player that has more 20-10-5 seasons than Larry Bird, Defender of the Year (2008 and most likely, this year) overrated? Hmm, right now I'm kind of smelling a bit of jealousy mixed with stupidity in this article.
TweedsterThis blog is poorly written, scattered and incoherent. Thankfully, someone else already tackled the inconsistencies and leaps of logic. Check it out hear: http://celticshub.com/2009/10/22/did-you-hear-kg-is-overrated/
TweedsterSome actual statistics, and not just conjecture and strange conclusions based on the number of 'chips KG has. http://www.celticstown.com/is-kevin-garnett-clutch.html
SPron campbell must love the Lakers. Or the Cav's. Or the Magic. but he doesn't know @$@@ about basketball!
Ed The Sports FanI'm sorry, there's no way in life Allen Iverson isn't in the starting 5, especially ahead of Nash. Give a damn about MVP's, Iverson's done more with much much MUCH less and totally revolutionized the game. Other than that, I think your decade team is cool. -Ed.
Lebron is the KingThe way you analyzed your stats is flawed. If your saying Bird is better because he hits more 3 pointers, scores more, and passes more, your wrong. Bird had exceptional teammates which explains some assists. Now Bird was a great 3 point shooter and you said Duncan was a "center playing a power forward". Now if he does this, why would you bash it? All it shows is how versatile Duncan is in his position on the court. Duncan although not a flashy player, showed dominance under the goal. Duncan didnt need to pass because he could school anyone under the goal. Duncan is better because he has more rings. End of story. And to your comment on "We will never see another Larry Bird." Well we see a better one now, he goes by Ray Ray.
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